by Lim Soon Hock (15 Aug 2026)
The interim pastor or minister is a very much studied and well-developed practice in Western churches. Not so in Malaysia, and I suspect, in Asia. In my 40 odd years of church ministry I have not heard it being mentioned. When I started to research on the topic I was, however, surprised to find a dissertation on the internet by a Malaysian pastor on the interim ministry.1

By its simplest definition, an interim pastor is a minister who is engaged by a church after the departure of its previous pastor and before a new pastor arrives.2 By definition, the period of engagement of an interim is short—usually a year to two. His (or her) role is also defined by the place he stands in the timeline between two tenured pastors—to transit the church from the ministry and leadership of one pastor to the next.
Why Malaysian Churches Don’t Engage Interims
With the above understanding about the interim minister, let’s go back to the question, why isn’t it practised among Malaysian churches? The first and most obvious reason is because they don’t know that there is such a thing as an interim pastor. Engaging an interim would not have crossed their minds. They don’t know they need one and they don’t know what to look for.
Secondly, many evangelical churches in Malaysia, more so among the non-denominational type, are not heavily dependent on a full-time pastor or a Senior Pastor to lead the church. The group of lay-leaders can capably (albeit with the constraints of time) minister and lead the church.3
Thirdly, churches don’t perceive the transition period between tenured pastors as an opportunity to work on critical issues facing the church. The sad truth, from my personal experience and observation, is that most churches don’t believe they have any serious issues. If they do, they don’t want to deal with them. Much less, to engage someone from the outside to guide it through the process.
When Malaysian Churches Should Engage Interims
It would be right to say that not all churches going through a transition between two tenured pastors need to engage an interim for the intervening period. For example, when the succeeding pastor has already been identified, lay-leaders are able to carry out pastoral functions, there aren’t any issues that the church cannot effectively resolve itself, and the church is generally quite healthy and united.
However, many churches are far from that ideal condition. When such a church is without a pastor for a long or indefinite period it usually leads to a worsening of its condition. One answer is to engage an interim pastor to help the church through at least two basic issues.
One, to address any effects from the departure of the former pastor. The former pastor could very well be a beloved pastor whose departure is not due to any negative reason, but simply because he is retiring from full-time pastoral ministry. Nonetheless, the church might be experiencing grief as a result of the pastor’s retirement and/or anxiety about the future of the church.
If the departure of the former pastor is due to some issue like sin, conflict, or poor performance, there will be an even greater need for an interim. In such cases, the latter is needed to help the church deal with the residual effects of the former pastor’s departure, including the reason for and the way his tenure had been terminated. The goal of the interim is to bring healing and closure for the church.
Secondly, if a church has had a difficult experience arising from the departure of its former pastor, it may be ill-prepared to look for the next pastor. And I add, who is a right fit for the church. In another instance, a church might have been searching for a pastor for a long time, but without success. An interim can fill the ministry and leadership gap while guiding the church to search for and prepare it to receive its new pastor.
In an era when there is a short supply of full-time pastors, an interim might also be instrumental to raise up a full-time or bi-vocational pastor from within the church.
The above points are just two of the most basic reasons why and when a church needs to engage an interim pastor. We will look at other critical reasons in subsequent articles as we discuss the unique role of an intentional interim. I believe many churches in Malaysia could do with the services of a trained intentional interim and greatly benefit from his (or her) ministry.


The New Testament is clear about the plurality of leaders. Paul instructed Titus to appoint “elders in every town” in Crete (Tit 1:5). Similarly, on their return leg of their first missionary journey, Barnabas and Paul “appointed elders for them in each church” in the cities of Lystra, Iconium and Antioch (Acts 14:21-23).
By “all things being equal” I mean that the pastor is just as capable, mature, spiritual, knows his Bible, and has leadership qualities as any of the other leaders in the church. If the pastor isn’t, relative to one or more of the other leaders, then, it is possible that another elder who is more qualified be appointed as the team leader.
Let me begin by contrasting a teaching situation and a small group discussion. In the classic teaching set-up, the students sit in rows; everyone faces forward and looks at the teacher. They don’t see each other’s faces, only the teacher’s.
It is not a good idea to have more than one layer of people. No one should be sitting behind another person. Everyone should be able to have eye-contact with every person in the group.
What is important to note is that the lines of communication are not just between the leader and the others, but also between the members of the group. If the conversation were just between the leader and each member, then the dynamics would be a “quiz”. The leader asks a question and someone responds. Then, back to the leader who follows up with a comment and/or another question. The cycle is then repeated. In this case, the leader is not functioning as a facilitator but a quiz master. However, a discussion, by definition, is only assumed to have taken place if members of the group interact with one another. One of the key jobs of the study leader then is to facilitate this interaction between members.
In this regard, the study leader steers the conversation around the topic. He guides the members to make contributions that are relevant to the focus of the study. If the discussion goes awry, the leader brings it back on track. If the discussion gets stuck, he moves it along. If a member of the group isn’t contributing to the conversation, he encourages him or her to participate. If someone is hogging the conversation, he tactfully gets others to share. At the end of the study, he brings the discussion to a close with a clear conclusion; including a take home point from the study.
The study leader is often temped to answer his own questions, especially when the group is slow to respond. But he must strongly resist! It wouldn’t be a discussion if the leader were to pose a question only to supply the answer himself. This does not mean that the leader does not come prepared with answers. He does. But he only shares it when it’s necessary to do so or by way of rounding off a segment of the discussion and as a conclusion to the study.
For example, the main purpose of a sermon is not about piling onto the listeners loads of biblical knowledge. Growth in Bible knowledge is more in line with teaching. This is not to say that a sermon has no teaching content. A sermon cannot qualify as a sermon if it is not biblically sound. A sermon must be based on teaching (biblical teaching); but a sermon is not teaching. The purpose of a sermon is to convey God’s message from the Bible. It is a word from God from the Word of God—a message from the passage. The purpose of a sermon is to speak into lives; to encourage, inspire, and correct; leading to life transformation (2 Tim 3:16-17).
A discussion is active learning through participation. Listening to sermons and Bible teaching are passive forms of learning. It is well documented that people learn better through active participation rather than passive listening.
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later. That is to say, there is a “wait for it” element in the movement of the sermon. Some teachers of homiletics have called this movement, “tension and resolution.”
Apart from the Lord’s call, the reason I entered full-time Christian ministry was because I wanted my life to make a difference. Maybe at that point in time I didn’t think of it in that precise term. However, what was true was that my life had been transformed by the Gospel and all I wanted to do with my life was to bring that same transforming message to others.
I believe most observers of churches will agree that events in the history of a church can have a long and lasting effect on its health. That is, positive past experiences serve to strengthen a church’s health, while negative past experiences cause damage to its health.
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The Analyst. Rev. Dr. Lim Soon Hock is a certified church consultant with the Society for Church Consulting (USA; website: https://churchconsulting.org/). He has had about 30 years of pastoral ministry that includes being the Senior Pastor of Georgetown Baptist Church, Penang, and PJ Evangelical Free Church, Petaling Jaya.